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Crocus January
« on: January 02, 2013, 12:19:05 AM »
New year new thread

The sun came out today and these little beauties opened properly. It is a I think a selection of laevigatus which has deep lilac inner shades and a very strong marking on the outers. I think it was from Tony G probably 6 or 7 years ago.
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Re: Crocus January
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2013, 10:06:17 AM »
Happy New Year Greetings to all!

Very lovely clump, Ian 8).
A very good start for the new year :D
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Re: Crocus January
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2013, 02:31:34 PM »
The sun came out today and these little beauties opened properly. It is a I think a selection of laevigatus which has deep lilac inner shades and a very strong marking on the outers. ...........

Ian - this looks as though it might  be C. laevigatus 'Fontenayi' (or var. fontenayi) which flowers here regularly between Christmas & the New Year.
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Re: Crocus January
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2013, 05:06:08 PM »

Gerry I agree it is very much like fontanayi which I also have growing in the garden (though not very well  :( )


I have checked the label and it says

Crocus    laevigatus – large dark lilac with purple blotch on outers and checking my records I was correct about the source. Perhaps Tony will comment if he is looking? Love these laevigatus such good plants and this is the deepest colour of the ones I grow
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Re: Crocus January
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2013, 05:11:39 PM »
Ian - this looks as though it might  be C. laevigatus 'Fontenayi' (or var. fontenayi) which flowers here regularly between Christmas & the New Year.
Gerry, i think the plant from Ian is not 'Fontenayi', here is a picture from this cultivar.
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Re: Crocus January
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2013, 09:41:16 AM »
Hi!
I had thought of Cr.minimus `Spring Beauty '!
But what I already know?  ;D
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Re: Crocus January
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2013, 09:55:25 AM »
Gerry, i think the plant from Ian is not 'Fontenayi', here is a picture from this cultivar.
Dirk - I wonder whether one of us has  the wrong plant? Or seedlings? What I have as 'Fontenayi' is more like Ian's plant than it is like the one you pictured. Unfortunately my camera is out of action at the moment so I can't take a photo.
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Re: Crocus January
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2013, 10:38:14 AM »
Dirk - I wonder whether one of us has  the wrong plant? Or seedlings? What I have as 'Fontenayi' is more like Ian's plant than it is like the one you pictured. Unfortunately my camera is out of action at the moment so I can't take a photo.
Gerry, I have looked just with Google for pictures of Crocus laevigatus 'Fontenayi'.
Rob Potterton and P.C.Nijssen offer this cultivar and also show the picture in addition.
'Fontenayi' is not so dark outside and has thinner stripes than the form of Ian.
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Re: Crocus January
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2013, 10:53:54 AM »
Gerry, I have the same plant as Dirk as 'Fontenayi'.
Ian's dark laevigatus is another one - I also have it from Tony.
But the dark one is a better grower, so perhaps it has replaced the true 'Fontenayi' in cultivation....?
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Re: Crocus January
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2013, 10:56:25 AM »
Gerry, I have looked just with Google for pictures of Crocus laevigatus 'Fontenayi'.
Rob Potterton and P.C.Nijssen offer this cultivar and also show the picture in addition.
'Fontenayi' is not so dark outside and has thinner stripes than the form of Ian.
Dirk - my plants came from Rob Potterton in 2007, so were probably imported.  I remain puzzled.

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Thomas - the plant I have is certainly easy to grow &  vigorous
« Last Edit: January 03, 2013, 11:00:06 AM by Gerry Webster »
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Re: Crocus January
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2013, 11:12:37 AM »
OK "Spring beauty" is probably totally wrong.
What is the difference between this and laevigatus?
To me they look very similar.

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Re: Crocus January
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2013, 11:23:05 AM »
OK "Spring beauty" is probably totally wrong.
What is the difference between this and laevigatus?
To me they look very similar.
Daniel, Crocus laevigatus blossoms from the late autumn till the winter, with late plantation also till the spring. Crocus minimus blossoms in general in the spring. In the colouring of the blossom they are quite similar, in the corm tunic one can distinguish them easily. Show sometimes on the website of Tony Goode.
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Re: Crocus January
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2013, 11:28:55 AM »
Have checked through my photos for the ones I bought from Rob Potterton some years ago ( I will have to move them as I can't seem to make them flower regularly). Here it is it IS different in that the fontanayi version is lighter in colour and the markings don't appear to be as strong on the outers. Perhaps I should call it improved fontanayi ;)

I show the "fontanayi" below
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Re: Crocus January
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2013, 12:57:44 PM »
 Thanks Dirk!
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Re: Crocus January
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2013, 07:12:38 PM »
Today melted snow from open field and I went to check plantings. Found only holes and shoots without bulbs... :'( :'( :'( and so bed after bed almost everything, everywhere where I looked... :'( :'( :'(
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