Cyclamen 2013

[Melvyn Jope]

Very strange Hans, I thought they were C. rohlfsianum flowers!

[krisderaeymaeker]

Very strange Hans, I thought they were C. rohlfsianum flowers!

Was my first idea to Melvyn , but I suppose they are not hybridising with graecum?
I changed my posting to persicum but ofcourse this one also could not cros with graecum ....
Maybe Hans did some photoshop ....or it is a strange atumn flowering persicum . Or an odd rohlfsianum ?

[Mark Griffiths]

hmm, I'd say rohlfsianum flowering up through a graecum?

[brianw]

Lifted 3 greacum from the garden a few weeks back. After moving numerous hederifolium I forgot how different graecum root systems are. They seem none the worse for it so far in temporary deep pots.

[Mark Griffiths]

Brian, do you find them easy in the open garden? I tried one but it wasn't the right position though it lasted for a year or two I think.

[brianw]

Those 3 did fine. Must have been in 4 years or so, in a sheltered position under the edge of a Syringa meyeri 'Palibin. Planted as 2-3 cms diameter; in the photo nearer 6-8 cms. It's well drained chalky soil, raised bed, in a south facing garden, so not too testing for them. A friend in north Bucks has had 1 or more against  his house wall for some years without problems, and he has a high water table, much wetter than me I would guess, in winter at least.
Mine have had more water in the pots over the last few weeks than ever before. Hope they survive.

[Hans A.]

Maybe Hans did some photoshop ....or it is a strange atumn flowering persicum . Or an odd rohlfsianum ?

Kris, No I did not! 
Melvyn and Mark are certainly right - it seems a selfsown C. rohlfsianum is growing between white C. graecum. First I was not very happy as I thought there was a pink graecum between  my  white ones (grow species/forms which could create hybrids separate normally).
Now I am wondering how is the probability about getting hybrids between C. rohlfsianum and C. persicum autumnale - they are not growing far away from eachother and flowering at the same time this year.
 

[krisderaeymaeker]

Kris, No I did not! 

I know Hans .....bad joke to mask that we where uncertain abouth the right ID

Now I am wondering how is the probability about getting hybrids between C. rohlfsianum and C. persicum autumnale - they are not growing far away from eachother and flowering at the same time this year.

That would be an interesting theory ....But it is even so great that you get seedlings of rohlfsianum in the garden 

[krisderaeymaeker]

Cyclamen graecum leaves of some forms that I grow ........

[Melvyn Jope]

 Kris, remarkable leaves on the two plants in the third row from top.

[krisderaeymaeker]

Kris, remarkable leaves on the two plants in the third row from top.

Hello Melvyn , left is a plant I bought from Peter some years ago . Right is a plant I grew from seed that I collected at the Rhodopou peninsular .

[ruweiss]

Self sown Cyclamen coum in the meadow start to form their buds, while
Cyclamen hederifolium shows the last flowers for this season. We are
always amazed, how these plants survive the conditons in the bone dry
soil during summer under a Picea orientalis. Self sown seedlings grow
around the corms and give us hope for a bigger group of these fine plants.

[SJW]

A variety of leaf forms from a packet of C. hederifolium 'Tilebarn Greville' seeds, sown Oct 2011. None looks like Tilebarn Greville (and the largest plant is white flowered).  You never quite know what you're going to get from seed exchanges but I'm happy with what's come up. The 'Silver Arrow' plants are much better than the ones I have growing from 'Silver Arrow' seed! 

[Mark Griffiths]

Kris, I have a plant similar to those in the third row, I got it as "Rhodope" from Peter also.

Rudi, really like that hederifolium in the last pic.

Steve, very nice hederifolium mix there

[Melvyn Jope]

Very nice leaves on the C.hederifolium seedlings Steve, especially the silver leaf one on the left of the photo.
Rudi I agree with Mark the last C.hederifolium is very nice.

I picked out this plant as my most promising seedling last year and this is the first time it has flowered, I particularly like the black edging to the silver leaves. The seed came from a plant that was originally from Leonidi.