Cyclamen 2013

[SJW]

Cyclamen graecum grows in countless numbers (as it does over the whole area) in the gorge at Goynuk. This is a start to the walk to see Crocus wattiorum and once across the river the path which is part of the Anatolia long distance footpath follows an irrigation channel. Along this are magnificent plants both in size and in wonderful leaf forms of C. graecum. Leaf size is totally variable and ranges in my plants which are from my own seed  from just over 1 cm to 4 cms in diameter. The contribution to the Cyclamen society seed exchange is not mine.

Many thanks for this background info, Tony. If the seedling that has just emerged has a leaf as good as the one you show in photo 2, I'll be happy enough!

[Maggi Young]

Re reply 479, previous page  -  photo   cyclamen graecum goynuk.jpg


What a great photo to show the natural variation - no two alike- the magic of plants!

[Mark Griffiths]

thanks for the reply Steve and thanks for the pics Tony.

Does anyone have pics of the Monte Smith form either in cultivation or even better in the wld?

[SJW]

Does anyone have pics of the Monte Smith form either in cultivation or even better in the wild?

Mark, there's a photo of one of Ian Robertson's plants here: http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/plants/joint-rock/awards/jointrockmeeting/Joint+Rock+Meeting+Loughborough+October+/62/

[Gerry Webster]

Does anyone have pics of the Monte Smith form either in cultivation or even better in the wld?

Cyclamen graecum anatolicum

Two (A & B) are from Peter Moore, the third (C) is  from Pat Nichols. All are about 15 years old. B has never been floriferous.

If I remember, there are some pics of wild plants on Monte Smith on the Cyclamen Society website.

[Mark Griffiths]

thanks Steve, of course you are right, there are a number of pics here.

http://www.cyclamen.org/graecum_set.html

If I have time (and the light) I'll take a few pics here although I think the "Monte Smith" form I have (and if it is) is not great this year and more interesting than beautiful even when it's having a good year. Curious, most of the other graecum are in fine form this year.

[cycnich]

Plants from Monte Smith produce some of the most compact and attractive leaf forms with great variation. This is true only of plants at the top of the site on the exposed cliff top,further down the site under the cliff and trees this is not the case. In the picture reading the numbers left to right from the top the following are from the top of the site from my own seed. 19-20-24-25-27-28=29.

[Maggi Young]

I find these illustrations of the variations quite mesmerising and most instructive  - thanks for sharing, Pat. 

[Gerry Webster]

Pat - very interesting to see the variation from this single source. My 3 plants from Monte Smith differ significantly in leaf colour & flower shape but hardly at all in leaf pattern.

[Mark Griffiths]

thanks Pat, here are a couple of pics of my possible anatolicum and secondly a possible one from Monte Smith. Both from memory grow leaves from multiple evenly distributed tiny trunks

[cycnich]

thanks Pat, here are a couple of pics of my possible anatolicum and secondly a possible one from Monte Smith. Both from memory grow leaves from multiple evenly distributed tiny trunks

My gut feeling is that both are anatolicum as for monte smith it is not really possible to be sure it is just as likely they both may be turkish.

[Mark Griffiths]

thanks Pat. I seem to remember the "Monte Smith" had a collection number, it was from Cyclamen Society seed I think but it wasn't a CSE collection. I'll need to remember to go and have a look in the light.

 

[krisderaeymaeker]

I have two plants from "Monte Smith "  (from seed that I collected overthere ) and they both look much the same.... 

[krisderaeymaeker]

Plants from Monte Smith produce some of the most compact and attractive leaf forms with great variation. This is true only of plants at the top of the site on the exposed cliff top,further down the site under the cliff and trees this is not the case. In the picture reading the numbers left to right from the top the following are from the top of the site from my own seed. 19-20-24-25-27-28=29.

Within this variation  are some magnificent forms Patt . Many thanks  for sharing this and splendid idea and good job to make this picture !

[krisderaeymaeker]

Last time I visited Monte Smith C. graecum don't look that healthy to me .....In my opinion they where suffering ....