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Re: Cyclamen 2013
« Reply #240 on: September 21, 2013, 10:44:32 AM »

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Re: Cyclamen 2013
« Reply #241 on: September 21, 2013, 08:55:24 PM »
Great flowering plants Kris, Roma and Gerry!

In this article on C. graecum, Sandy Leven calls his plant  C. graecum album  : http://www.srgc.org.uk/monthfeature/nov2004/content.html   but I think it is more correctly C. graecum  forma album

The Cyclamen Society has it so : http://www.cyclamen.org/graecum_set.html 
as does the PBS :
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/CyclamenSpeciesTwo

Thanks Maggi - I wondered about the name because as I know white Cyclamen graecum are very rare in nature and do not know if there exist population of white flowering plants while those in culture seem to belong all to a true breeding white strain. ::)


Here a few flowering seedlingpots - C.rohlfsianum, C. hederifolium and C. graecum album. I remembered especially C. rohlfsianum as slow growing species so I was suprised to see flowers in this seedling pot, sown in november 2010.
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Re: Cyclamen 2013
« Reply #242 on: September 21, 2013, 09:10:50 PM »
Thanks Maggi - I wondered about the name because as I know white Cyclamen graecum are very rare in nature and do not know if there exist population of white flowering plants while those in culture seem to belong all to a true breeding white strain. ::)

We never find white graecums in the wild Hans (in something like twelve visits )


Here a few flowering seedlingpots - C.rohlfsianum, I remembered especially C. rohlfsianum as slow growing species so I was suprised to see flowers in this seedling pot, sown in november 2010.


That's surprise me too Hans . Never heard of flowering three year old rohlfsianum ! Nice surprise anyway . Maybe it is in the gen of this plant ?
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Re: Cyclamen 2013
« Reply #243 on: September 22, 2013, 12:04:41 AM »
My experience is that cyclamen seedlings vary hugely in vigour and speed to flowering. I think I had a C.colchicum flower in 18 months and it was supposedly the slowest to flower from seed.

C.rolhfsianum I find I have a lot of slow growing seedlings and a couple of really fast growing ones.
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Re: Cyclamen 2013
« Reply #244 on: September 22, 2013, 01:09:29 AM »
Many thanks Steve. As I noted I have 3 plants obtained as subsp. anatolicum ( 2 from Peter Moore & 1 from Pat Nichols) all supposedly from the same population in  Rhodes.  They are similar in leaf pattern - though not in colour - but differ markedly in flower shape. Hence my sceptical view of the supposed subspecies. How are they to be distinguished?


Gerry - I had a quick look at the Peter Moore/Melvyn Jope Cyclamen of Greece book for clarification and, to save time writing it out, I've posted a couple of (poor) photos of the relevant pages. Of course, Melvyn is a fellow forumist so I hope he doesn't mind :). Any help with ID?
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Re: Cyclamen 2013
« Reply #245 on: September 22, 2013, 08:22:36 AM »
The newly emerging leaf of Cyclamen rohlfsianum attracts my attention every year !!!








The first flowers are'nt bad either !

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Re: Cyclamen 2013
« Reply #246 on: September 22, 2013, 10:57:48 AM »
Gerry - I had a quick look at the Peter Moore/Melvyn Jope Cyclamen of Greece book for clarification and, to save time writing it out, I've posted a couple of (poor) photos of the relevant pages. Of course, Melvyn is a fellow forumist so I hope he doesn't mind :). Any help with ID?

Thanks for this Steve. I presume, though I am by no means  certain, that my plants came from the Cyclamen Soc. seed collection on Monte Smith. I hope Melvyn turns up to clarify matters.
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Re: Cyclamen 2013
« Reply #247 on: September 22, 2013, 11:04:38 AM »
The SRGC is pleased to have very happy relations with the Cyclamen Society -we are delighted that so many of its luminaries are members here  8)

Peter Moore/Melvyn Jope    Cyclamen of Greece , Publ. Cyclamen Society 2011
you can  buy it for only £4.00 : http://www.cyclamen.org/publications.htm
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Re: Cyclamen 2013
« Reply #248 on: September 22, 2013, 01:13:02 PM »
The SRGC is pleased to have very happy relations with the Cyclamen Society -we are delighted that so many of its luminaries are members here  8)
Peter Moore/Melvyn Jope    Cyclamen of Greece , Publ. Cyclamen Society 2011
you can  buy it for only £4.00 : http://www.cyclamen.org/publications.htm
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Good to mention it here Maggi. As a member of the CS I bought it immediately and I have no regrets .It's worth to have it ! Melvyn and Peter have done a good job on the research of our dear Cyclamen . 
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Re: Cyclamen 2013
« Reply #249 on: September 22, 2013, 10:13:37 PM »
This Cyclamen hederifolium is almost at his best outside in the garden .
Inside some C. mirabile are doing wel

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Re: Cyclamen 2013
« Reply #250 on: September 22, 2013, 10:18:34 PM »
Cyclamen graecum is on his way . Here the season is later as previous year ......
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Re: Cyclamen 2013
« Reply #251 on: September 24, 2013, 12:10:24 AM »
  Luc , superb photos of your C rohlfsianum
    a photo of my most floriferous tuber of C. rhodium ssp. peleponnesiacum in flower at the moment in my garden . It self sows abundently  as does C. libanoticum  and repandum  etc.
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Re: Cyclamen 2013
« Reply #252 on: September 25, 2013, 12:14:59 AM »
 
 ....   a photo of my most floriferous tuber of C. rhodium ssp. peleponnesiacum in flower at the moment in my garden . It self sows abundantly  as does C. libanoticum  and repandum  etc.
I am trying hard  not to be jealous...... :-X
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Re: Cyclamen 2013
« Reply #253 on: September 25, 2013, 07:50:34 AM »
I am trying hard  not to be jealous...... :-X

I don't even try, Maggi !
What a super clump Otto !!  :o :o
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Re: Cyclamen 2013
« Reply #254 on: September 25, 2013, 05:58:40 PM »
Cyclamen graecum

From seed collected in the Peloponnese & given to me by Ronald & Erna  Frank.
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