Cyclamen 2013

[krisderaeymaeker]

Another spot in Rhodos where they grow ....

[cycnich]

Superb pictures that show the extremely harsh environment in which they grow on Rhodes. Thank you

[SJW]

Plants from Monte Smith produce some of the most compact and attractive leaf forms with great variation. This is true only of plants at the top of the site on the exposed cliff top,further down the site under the cliff and trees this is not the case. In the picture reading the numbers left to right from the top the following are from the top of the site from my own seed. 19-20-24-25-27-28=29.

Pat, what a great photo to illustrate the leaf variation in C. graecum. Are the first two rows candicum?

[johnw]

Where would you place this C. graecum from the CS circa the very late 1980's?

johnw

[cycnich]

Pat, what a great photo to illustrate the leaf variation in C. graecum. Are the first two rows candicum?

Well spotted Steve all candicum

[cycnich]

Where would you place this C. graecum from the CS circa the very late 1980's?

johnw

My guess would be ssp graecum

[Gerry Webster]

Hello Pat - In my post above (484) I showed a plant (A) obtained from Peter as Cyclamen graecum anatolicum (Monte Smith form). On the basis of the flower shape  I have wondered for some time if this might be subsp. candicum. What do you think?

[cycnich]

Hello Pat - In my post above (484) I showed a plant (A) obtained from Peter as Cyclamen graecum anatolicum (Monte Smith form). On the basis of the flower shape  I have wondered for some time if this might be subsp. candicum. What do you think?

I would be pretty sure this plant is anatolicum,attached is a picture of typical candicum for comprarison.

[SJW]

thanks Pat. I seem to remember the "Monte Smith" had a collection number, it was from Cyclamen Society seed I think but it wasn't a CSE collection. I'll need to remember to go and have a look in the light.

Mark - here's some graecum anatolicum seedlings from a CSE plant (ex. CSE 91326, collected from the Monte Smith site).

[Gerry Webster]

I would be pretty sure this plant is anatolicum,attached is a picture of typical candicum for comprarison.

Thanks Pat.

[Mark Griffiths]

well Pat, I looked at the label and the collectors number is "PN 981/47" - I'm guessing that's you!

Given that it's always been very compact I think it probably is the right seed in the packet. Looks like my other "anatolicum" is possibly also Monte Smith form but I'll leave it just labelled "anatolicum". I don't think either have flowered although I've probably had them over a decade.

thanks Steve, those do look very healthy (and big!) compared to my plants.

[cycnich]

well Pat, I looked at the label and the collectors number is "PN 981/47" - I'm guessing that's you!

Given that it's always been very compact I think it probably is the right seed in the packet. Looks like my other "anatolicum" is possibly also Monte Smith form but I'll leave it just labelled "anatolicum". I don't think either have flowered although I've probably had them over a decade.

thanks Steve, those do look very healthy (and big!) compared to my plants.

Pn 98/147 is my seed from monte smith and is the first seed I ever collected and numbered 147 being the number of my house which seemed a good place to start. Nice to know it is still around.

[Hans A.]

Now I am wondering how is the probability about getting hybrids between C. rohlfsianum and C. persicum autumnale - they are not growing far away from eachother and flowering at the same time this year.

Checking some seedlings yesterday...

[Roma]

The leaf on the left looks interesting, Hans.

[Roma]

I checked the numbers on my Cyclamen graecum plants from CSE seed and realise I have a few from Monte Smith from CSE 91326 sown in October 2004.
The first two are the same plant flowering on October 20th and with more leaves on November 24th.  I have another two but they are just thinking about producing leaves now.