Cyclamen 2013

[Hans A.]

Thanks Kris and Steve, both are ex CSE 93073. (not sure where this collection was)

[David Nicholson]

Hans, you may find the following link of interest:-


http://www.cyclamen.org/cse_set.html

[Naoto The Zombie]

Hello gang of SRGC!

I picked up this C. coum "Ashwood Snowflake" last winter and it looks very similar to C.coum CSE88397 - does anyone know if I could recognise this as white versio nof CSE88397 or are they completely different varieties?  Thanks!

[Maggi Young]

C. coum "Ashwood Snowflake"  has been on my wishlist since Diane showed it a couple of years ago :
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4752.msg137735#msg137735

Seeing your beautiful neat plant I am again convinced of its charm. 

[SJW]

I picked up this C. coum "Ashwood Snowflake" last winter and it looks very similar to C.coum CSE88397 - does anyone know if I could recognise this as white versio nof CSE88397 or are they completely different varieties?  Thanks!

Naoto - lovely foliage on your 'Ashwood Snowflake'. Those early Cyclamen Society expeditions introduced some really good leaf forms of C. coum including 88397 but, 25 years down the line and countless generations later, I'm not sure that any plant now really qualifies as eg ex 88397 - the parent plants are long gone, I think. And didn't one of the BSBE collected plants (from 1963!) also have a silver leaf with a dark christmas tree pattern? Snowflake is an Ashwood's selection and, as they grow most of the cyclamen species and varieties that are available, including those other coum whites - 'Golan Heights' and 'George Bisson' - who knows which plants were used in the breeding programme? But I suspect there's some cse plant genes in the mix! One of the West Midlands forumists more familiar with Ashwood's cyclamen breeding work may be able to comment further.

[SJW]

And as many forumists will know, CSE 90417 is the parent plant of C. coum 'Golan Heights'.

[Gerry Webster]

...... didn't one of the BSBE collected plants (from 1963!) also have a silver leaf with a dark christmas tree pattern?........

Steve - yes it did. I still grow  a plant  obtained years ago from Peter as BSBE 518. The flowers are quite dark magenta. Self-sown seedlings from this are very variable & include pure silver leaf plants. 'Ashwood Snowflake' has very attractive leaves but in my experience this leaf form is not particularly unusual; I presume the name refers to the  colour of the flowers.

[Naoto The Zombie]

@SJW-san
Thank you for your information - it really helps. So far "A.Snowflake" is my favourite coum (so far!) and I'd like to create a carpet of this in the raised bed in my garden someday.

@Mr. Webster
I think you're right - the leaves look nice but not so unusal, and what's more, the flowers weren't pure albissimum - I put it "between white and blushed pink". Let's see how it will look next year (there's no sign of flowers at all right now..... )

By the way, is there anyone who could tell me where I can purchase mirablie Tilebarn Ann? I've been looking for it but no success, and my seedlings (which I got from the CS show last year) look very sad (only 4 out of 10 seedlings have been surviving), so I may have to give up......

[johnralphcarpenter]

This self-seeded Cyclamen coum is growing under a Malus. No idea where the parent plant came from, but the leaves look similar to those discussed above.

[SJW]

By the way, is there anyone who could tell me where I can purchase mirablie Tilebarn Ann? I've been looking for it but no success, and my seedlings (which I got from the CS show last year) look very sad (only 4 out of 10 seedlings have been surviving), so I may have to give up......

Green Ice Nursery has 'Tilebarn Anne' listed on their website. You mentioned in an earlier post that you'd spoken to Jan B at the Wisley autumn cyclamen show. He normally attends the late Spring cyclamen show at Wisley and if you contacted him he could probably bring one over for you to pick up on the day. I've found the quickest way to get 'Tilebarn Anne' from seed is to sow a packet labelled as 'Tilebarn Nicholas' The pewter leaf mirabile photo in your post about the Wisley show in October is one of my plants and that came from a packet of 'Tilebarn Nicholas' seed - they seem to pop up quite often (I think Peter Moore developed 'Tilebarn Anne' from 'Tilebarn Nicholas'?). Not that I label my plant as 'Tilebarn Anne'... 

[ian mcenery]

Nice coum leaves

Cyclamen x wellensiekii from society seed

[Naoto The Zombie]

Green Ice Nursery has 'Tilebarn Anne' listed on their website
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Yeah, I noticed that.....the problem is that I am going back to Japan next month and will come back to the UK on 7th Feb - the day before the early spring show at Wisley so that I may not be able to make it (I'm sure I'd be very knackered after 12-hour flight). I kind of expected Ashwood would have some, but they've been sold-out over the last two years or so.....

Talking of seedlings, this is the result of mirabile "Tilebarn Nicholas"



I purchased the seeds at the CE autumn show last year - 10 seeds in the bag and they all germinated but two died later.



One of them is really pinky and the colour still stays even after 3 weeks - perhaps I should cherish this one the most.

[SJW]

Naoto - I don't think Jan comes to the February (winter) show, but he's usually at the Spring show, which next year is on 29 March.

[Roma]

Cyclamen elegans

[Naoto The Zombie]

@master SJW
Thank you for your reply - that's really helpful! I'll skip the early show and will go to the late spring show, then.

P.S. Nice elegans @ Roma!