We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Eranthis 2013  (Read 25296 times)

Gail

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1681
  • Country: gb
  • So don't forget my friend to smell the flowers
Re: Eranthis 2013
« Reply #90 on: February 15, 2013, 03:29:55 PM »
Gail, this is what I have as differences (next to the fact that 'Orange Glow' was found in Denmark in 1950 and 'Orange Pips' in England) 'Orange Pips has larger flowers and flowers earlier than 'Orange Glow', also the anthers of 'Orange Pips' have an intenser colour.
Thanks Wim. I wouldn't say there is a significant difference as to size or anther colour but I can't give a true comparison when one is pot-grown and the other in the ground. I'll plant Pips out and report back next year.....
Gail Harland
Norfolk, England

Janis Ruksans

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3944
  • Country: lv
    • Rare Bulb Nursery - Latvia
Re: Eranthis 2013
« Reply #91 on: February 15, 2013, 05:08:18 PM »
Is it worth to keep so many names with so minor differences?
Janis
Rare Bulb Nursery - Latvia
http://rarebulbs.lv

WimB

  • always digs deeper...
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2631
  • Country: be
    • Vlaamse Rotsplanten Vereniging
Re: Eranthis 2013
« Reply #92 on: February 15, 2013, 05:38:30 PM »
Is it worth to keep so many names with so minor differences?
Janis

Have you ever looked at Galanthus cultivar, Janis  ;) Just kidding, naming forms with small differences is stupid in my view too, but I'd keep these two apart because they originated from two very different place; 'Orange Glow' as a found seedling in Denmark in 1950 and 'Orange Pips' as a seedling of 'Noël Ayres' half of century later in England.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2013, 09:01:27 PM by WimB »
Wim Boens - Secretary VRV (Flemish Rock Garden Society) - Seed exchange manager Crocus Group
Wingene Belgium zone 8a

Flemish Rock Garden society (VRV): http://www.vrvforum.be/
Facebook page VRV: http://www.facebook.com/pages/VRV-Vlaamse-Rotsplanten-Vereniging/351755598192270

Janis Ruksans

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3944
  • Country: lv
    • Rare Bulb Nursery - Latvia
Re: Eranthis 2013
« Reply #93 on: February 16, 2013, 07:30:51 AM »
I never was galanthophile, although I have very good friends between them, but personally I regard this as some form of illness. But may be others look on croconuts in same way... ;D  even regarding to species...
Janis
Rare Bulb Nursery - Latvia
http://rarebulbs.lv

bulborum

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1462
  • Country: fr
  • Botanical bulbofiel
    • Facebook Forum
Re: Eranthis 2013
« Reply #94 on: February 16, 2013, 08:32:11 AM »
I agree with you Janos
If a specialist can't see the difference if they are mixed up
it's not worth naming them
better just give a nice one a number
so it isn't lost for breeding

Roland
Zone <8   -7°C _ -12°C  10 F to +20 F
RGB or RBGG means:
We collect mother plants or seeds ourself in the nature and multiply them later on the nursery

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bulborum/

For other things see:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Pumpkins.Tomatoes.Sweet.and.mild.Peppers

KentGardener

  • SRGC OOAgent
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2003
  • Country: gb
  • Every day's a school day
Re: Eranthis 2013
« Reply #95 on: February 16, 2013, 02:46:57 PM »
I have ventured outside of the Galanthus area - hello anyone who doesn't know me.   :)  Reading the last few posts has been interesting for me. 

Today I spent some time taking pictures of the Eranthis I have growing in my little garden so far.  I got my first few in Nettetal 2 years ago and have since added a few more.  When I was resizing the pictures I did wonder if I could identify them without the label.

I still love them in the garden and intend to add more  - but think I am going to need a lot of practice to tell them all apart.  Galanthus are so much easier! ;)

1 - What I got as 'Orange Glow' - does this look correct?

2 - What I got as 'Schlyters Orange' - does this look correct?

3 - one I was given - presumably hyemalis?

4 - another I was given - presumably a slightly different hyemalis?
« Last Edit: February 16, 2013, 03:06:39 PM by KentGardener »
John

John passed away in 2017 - his posts remain here in tribute to his friendship and contribution to the forum.

KentGardener

  • SRGC OOAgent
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2003
  • Country: gb
  • Every day's a school day
Re: Eranthis 2013
« Reply #96 on: February 16, 2013, 02:57:03 PM »
And some doubles:

1 - 'Lady Lamortagne' - one I think I might stand a change of recognising.

2 - flore plena seedling1

3 - flore plena seedling2

4 - flore plena seedling3

5 - Grunling - got from Nettatal but not sure it is right?

John

John passed away in 2017 - his posts remain here in tribute to his friendship and contribution to the forum.

WimB

  • always digs deeper...
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2631
  • Country: be
    • Vlaamse Rotsplanten Vereniging
Re: Eranthis 2013
« Reply #97 on: February 16, 2013, 04:29:36 PM »
Hi John,

glad to see you outside of the white-green world  ;D

Your orange forms could be correct, but the flowers have started to wither, so I'm not sure. 'Schlyters Orange' is not distuingishable from 'Orange Glow', it might be the same form or a comparable form which developed in a different place....
The two following pics are two slightly different forms of E. hyemalis indeed...very nice too.

'Lady Lamortagne' is a super form, growing taller than normal E. hyemalis and a semi-filled form.
E. hyemalis, Flore Pleno comes in all forms and shapes...only really different ones should be named.
E. hyemalis 'Grunling' is correct!
Wim Boens - Secretary VRV (Flemish Rock Garden Society) - Seed exchange manager Crocus Group
Wingene Belgium zone 8a

Flemish Rock Garden society (VRV): http://www.vrvforum.be/
Facebook page VRV: http://www.facebook.com/pages/VRV-Vlaamse-Rotsplanten-Vereniging/351755598192270

pehe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1033
  • Country: dk
  • Autumn flowering bulbs
Re: Eranthis 2013
« Reply #98 on: February 16, 2013, 06:36:11 PM »
.....
3 - one I was given - presumably hyemalis?

4 - another I was given - presumably a slightly different hyemalis?

To me they look somewhat  like a hyemalis X cilicica hybrid.

Poul
Poul Erik Eriksen in Hedensted, Denmark - Zone 6

pehe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1033
  • Country: dk
  • Autumn flowering bulbs
Re: Eranthis 2013
« Reply #99 on: February 16, 2013, 06:40:47 PM »
Eranthis pinnatifida in the open garden today and Eranthis tubergenii Guinea Gold in a frame.

Poul
Poul Erik Eriksen in Hedensted, Denmark - Zone 6

WimB

  • always digs deeper...
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2631
  • Country: be
    • Vlaamse Rotsplanten Vereniging
Re: Eranthis 2013
« Reply #100 on: February 16, 2013, 06:44:16 PM »
To me they look somewhat  like a hyemalis X cilicica hybrid.

Poul

Possibly, there's a bit of bronze in the first ones leaf and the second ones leaf is more finely dissected. That would make them E. x tubergenii.
Wim Boens - Secretary VRV (Flemish Rock Garden Society) - Seed exchange manager Crocus Group
Wingene Belgium zone 8a

Flemish Rock Garden society (VRV): http://www.vrvforum.be/
Facebook page VRV: http://www.facebook.com/pages/VRV-Vlaamse-Rotsplanten-Vereniging/351755598192270

WimB

  • always digs deeper...
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2631
  • Country: be
    • Vlaamse Rotsplanten Vereniging
Re: Eranthis 2013
« Reply #101 on: February 16, 2013, 06:45:17 PM »
Eranthis pinnatifida in the open garden today and Eranthis tubergenii Guinea Gold in a frame.

Poul

Very nice, Poul. They are both a lot earlier than over here...seems Denmark is having better weather than Belgium for the moment!  ;)
Wim Boens - Secretary VRV (Flemish Rock Garden Society) - Seed exchange manager Crocus Group
Wingene Belgium zone 8a

Flemish Rock Garden society (VRV): http://www.vrvforum.be/
Facebook page VRV: http://www.facebook.com/pages/VRV-Vlaamse-Rotsplanten-Vereniging/351755598192270

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Eranthis 2013
« Reply #102 on: February 16, 2013, 09:38:50 PM »
John your E. x tubergenii / SRGC_Hyemalis2.jpg look fantastic.

Some of my Guinea Gold are in full flower while others are just coming up

I have my first self sown Orange Glow seedling flowering
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

Roma

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2353
  • Country: scotland
Re: Eranthis 2013
« Reply #103 on: February 16, 2013, 10:21:46 PM »
Eranthis hyemalis yesterday with honey bees collecting pollen.
Roma Fiddes, near Aberdeen in north East Scotland.

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Eranthis 2013
« Reply #104 on: February 16, 2013, 10:35:21 PM »
Your bees, Roma?
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal